Question - Flat or Round Earth?
Sep 06, 2023I love looking at these questions from both sides and seeing how the truth feels and on this one, the evidence contradicts itself and both sides have holes in the theory - so is the reality a 3rd option!
Questions like this trigger you, you BELIEVE that what you know is true, for that reason, it's good to look and see if what you 'know' is true to you or something you were told and you never looked to see if it was true for you!
I had Chatgpt do the heavy lifting and come up with a list showing both sides, I've read 100's of ideas on both sides and here are 50 flat Earth arguments followed immediately by a matching round Earth argument:
1. Flat Earth: The horizon appears flat.
1. Round Earth: The Earth's shadow on the Moon during lunar eclipses.
2. Flat Earth: Lack of visible curvature on the horizon.
2. Round Earth: Ships disappearing bottom-up over the horizon.
3. Flat Earth: The horizon looks flat even during flight.
3. Round Earth: Circumnavigation - traveling in a straight line brings you back to the starting point.
4. Flat Earth: Objects disappear bottom-first due to perspective.
4. Round Earth: Different constellations in the northern and southern hemispheres.
5. Flat Earth: Large bodies of water appear flat.
5. Round Earth: Earth's gravity pulling objects toward the center.
6. Flat Earth: Lack of star parallax - stars don't show the expected shift in position.
6. Round Earth: Earth's curvature visible from high altitudes.
7. Flat Earth: No visible bulge on the ocean's surface.
7. Round Earth: Photos from space showing the Earth as a sphere.
8. Flat Earth: Lack of detectable Earth rotation.
8. Round Earth: The Coriolis effect - rotation affects weather patterns.
9. Flat Earth: The absence of a noticeable curve.
9. Round Earth: The shape of the Earth's shadow during a lunar eclipse.
10. Flat Earth: The Earth looks flat from an airplane.
10. Round Earth: Time zones and sunrise/sunset patterns.
11. Flat Earth: The flat appearance of distant mountains.
11. Round Earth: Satellite imagery of the Earth.
12. Flat Earth: The level flight of aircraft.
12. Round Earth: Earth's magnetic field and pole locations.
13. Flat Earth: Lack of perceived motion due to Earth's rotation.
13. Round Earth: The Foucault pendulum's precession.
14. Flat Earth: The flatness of bodies of water like lakes.
14. Round Earth: The way ships reappear on the horizon as they approach.
15. Flat Earth: The belief that gravity is a hoax.
15. Round Earth: The spherical shape of other celestial bodies like planets and moons.
16. Flat Earth: The belief that space travel is a hoax.
16. Round Earth: The shape of the Earth's shadow on the Moon during a penumbral eclipse.
17. Flat Earth: The belief in a dome or firmament above the Earth.
17. Round Earth: The changing positions of stars as you travel north or south.
18. Flat Earth: The idea that water seeks its own level.
18. Round Earth: The phenomenon of star trails in long-exposure photographs.
19. Flat Earth: The concept of "level" as opposed to "curved."
19. Round Earth: The consistent experience of gravity on Earth.
20. Flat Earth: The belief that the atmosphere would be sucked into space if the Earth were round.
20. Round Earth: The curvature of the Earth seen from high altitudes.
21. Flat Earth: The belief in a stationary, unmoving Earth.
21. Round Earth: The way airplanes adjust their flight paths based on Earth's curvature.
22. Flat Earth: The belief that flights can be explained without Earth's curvature.
22. Round Earth: GPS systems work based on satellite orbits.
23. Flat Earth: The belief that the Earth is covered by a dome or firmament.
23. Round Earth: The curvature of the Earth's shadow during a total solar eclipse.
24. Flat Earth: The idea that the horizon is always at eye level.
24. Round Earth: The phenomenon of auroras near the poles.
25. Flat Earth: The perception that the Earth doesn't move.
25. Round Earth: The phenomenon of the midnight sun in polar regions.
26. Flat Earth: The belief that gravity can't explain why helium rises.
26. Round Earth: The concept of "level" as a flat plane.
27. Flat Earth: The notion that airplanes don't dip their noses to compensate for Earth's curvature.
27. Round Earth: The spherical shape of the Earth's shadow on the Moon during total eclipses.
28. Flat Earth: The idea that water in a container remains level.
28. Round Earth: Time dilation due to Earth's rotation.
29. Flat Earth: The belief that gravity is just density and buoyancy.
29. Round Earth: Earth's equator being longer than lines of longitude.
30. Flat Earth: The belief that the Earth is a flat plane with the North Pole at the center.
30. Round Earth: The belief that gravity is a force of attraction between objects.
31. Flat Earth: The belief that gravity is just a theory.
31. Round Earth: The curvature of the Earth visible in photos of distant landscapes.
32. Flat Earth: The belief that Earth is a stationary plane.
32. Round Earth: The spherical shape of the Earth's shadow on the Moon during total eclipses.
33. Flat Earth: The belief that the horizon appears flat in all directions.
33. Round Earth: The way ships disappear bottom-up.
34. Flat Earth: The idea that water always finds its lowest point.
34. Round Earth: The curvature of the Earth's shadow on the Moon during a penumbral eclipse.
35. Flat Earth: The concept of a flat Earth map.
35. Round Earth: The way circumnavigation is possible.
36. Flat Earth: The belief in a stationary, unmoving Earth.
36. Round Earth: The phenomenon of the Coriolis effect on projectiles.
37. Flat Earth: The notion that flights follow straight paths on a flat Earth.
37. Round Earth: The phenomenon of the midnight sun in polar regions.
38. Flat Earth: The perception that the Earth's surface is always level.
38. Round Earth: The way airplanes adjust their flight paths based on Earth's curvature.
39. Flat Earth: The idea that water remains level in any container.
39. Round Earth: The way GPS systems work based on satellite orbits.
40. Flat Earth: The belief that gravity is a theory, not a fact.
40. Round Earth: The curvature of the Earth's shadow during a total solar eclipse.
41. Flat Earth: The notion that gravity can't explain helium balloons rising.
41. Round Earth: The phenomenon of star trails in long-exposure photographs.
42. Flat Earth: The concept of a flat, motionless Earth.
42. Round Earth: The consistent experience of gravity on Earth.
43. Flat Earth: The belief that airplanes don't dip their noses to compensate for Earth's curvature.
43. Round Earth: The way Earth's atmosphere extends into space.
44. Flat Earth: The idea that water in a container remains level.
44. Round Earth: The spherical shape of the Earth's shadow on the Moon during total eclipses.
45. Flat Earth: The perception that the Earth doesn't move.
45. Round Earth: The phenomenon of auroras near the poles.
46. Flat Earth: The belief that gravity is just density and buoyancy.
46. Round Earth: The concept of "level" as a flat plane.
47. Flat Earth: The notion that flights follow straight paths on a flat Earth.
47. Round Earth: The spherical shape of the Earth's shadow on the Moon during total eclipses.
48. Flat Earth: The idea that water remains level in any container.
48. Round Earth: Time dilation due to Earth's rotation.
49. Flat Earth: The belief that gravity is a theory, not a fact.
49. Round Earth: Earth's equator being longer than lines of longitude.
50. Flat Earth: The concept of a flat, motionless Earth.
50. Round Earth: The belief that gravity is a force of attraction between objects.
Which do you believe or do you see another or more options?
comment below.
To follow on its "Did We Land on the Moon?" - many say we did not and that film evidence is very poorly done in a studio!
Thoughts?
Chat said the following:
A list of some of the common issues raised by moon landing hoax proponents, along with brief explanations refuting these claims:
1. Lack of stars in photos: Some argue that the absence of stars in moon landing photos suggests a studio setting. However, the lunar surface is extremely bright, and the cameras used were not set up to capture faint stars.
2. Flapping flag: Critics point to the American flag appearing to wave or flutter in videos, claiming it's evidence of wind on the moon. In reality, the flag had a horizontal rod to hold its shape, and the motion was a result of astronauts adjusting it.
3. Shadows: Moon landing deniers often question the direction of shadows in photos, claiming they indicate multiple light sources. The sun, however, is the primary light source, and uneven terrain can create irregular shadows.
4. No blast crater: Some argue that the lunar module should have created a more significant blast crater when landing. The moon's surface is covered in a layer of fine dust, which can't create a typical Earth-like crater.
5. Radiation exposure: Critics claim that astronauts would have been exposed to lethal levels of radiation in the Van Allen belts. Apollo spacecraft passed through the belts quickly, minimizing radiation exposure.
6. Lack of impact crater under lunar module: Moon landing deniers suggest that the lunar module should have created a large impact crater under it. However, the module's descent engine expelled its exhaust horizontally, preventing a deep crater.
7. Stars not visible in photos: Some argue that stars should be visible in the black lunar sky. However, the exposure settings on the cameras were adjusted to capture the brightly lit lunar surface, making faint stars invisible.
8. Crosshairs on photos: Moon landing skeptics claim that objects in some photos appear to be superimposed because the crosshairs on the camera's viewfinder are sometimes partially obstructed. This can be explained by overexposure or light scattering.
9. Studio lighting: Critics suggest that the lighting on the moon is too even and uniform, as if it were in a studio. On the moon, there's no atmosphere to scatter light, resulting in harsh shadows and strong contrasts.
10. No blast noise: Some argue that the absence of sound in lunar module descent videos is suspicious. In the vacuum of space, there is no medium for sound to travel, so it wouldn't be audible.
It's important to emphasize that the overwhelming evidence from multiple sources, including NASA's extensive documentation, photographs, and the testimony of thousands of scientists and engineers, supports the authenticity of the moon landings. These conspiracy theories have been debunked by experts in various fields. The moon landings remain one of humanity's greatest achievements, backed by solid scientific evidence.